How to Start Dating After Divorce Without Repeating Old Patterns

5 Key Takeaways

1. Dating after divorce is often more about healing than dating. If dating feels exhausting, confusing, or emotionally triggering, the issue may not be finding the right person — it may be unresolved emotional pain from past relationships. Healing old wounds changes how safe love feels again.
2. Many people settle because they fear being alone. After divorce, it is common to accept inconsistent communication, emotional unavailability, or even“breadcrumb” attention because of loneliness or a sense of damaged self-worth. Healthy relationships require higher standards and emotional clarity.
3. Your nervous system influences dating more than you realize. Anxiety, shutdown, panic, emotional flooding, or overthinking during dating can be signs of nervous system activation and unresolved relationship trauma. Learning to recognize emotional triggers helps you separate past wounds from your present reality.
4. Emotional safety matters more than chemistry alone. Strong attraction does not always mean a relationship is healthy. Many people unconsciously feel drawn to emotionally unavailable partners because the pattern feels familiar. Emotional safety, consistency, and trust are essential for long-term connection.
5. Confidence and self-worth change the type of relationships you attract. Healthy dating starts with believing you deserve healthy love, which you absolutely do. When you stop seeking validation and start choosing relationships from confidence and clarity, dating becomes less reactive and more intentional.

Highlights

• 00:00 “Unpacking Dating and Self-Confidence”
• 05:55 “Dating: The 3H Method Explained”
• 07:48 Breadcrumb Mentality in Dating
• 12:37 Recognizing Flashbacks in Relationships
• 14:33 Healing Through Somatic Breathwork
• 17:33 Coping with Emotional Overwhelm
• 23:14 Marriage vs. Dating Mindset
• 26:05 Women’s Bodies & Trauma Awareness
• 27:37 “Unspoken Emotions Cause Physical Pain”
• 30:41 Overcoming Bladder Health Scare
• 36:17 Sepia Alleviates Menstrual Pain
• 39:06 Inherited Ovarian Health Struggles
• 40:11 Homeopathy and Emotional Health Journey
• 43:36 Embracing Osteopathy Over Modern Medicine

Frequently Asked Questions

How long should you wait to start dating after divorce?

There is no perfect timeline. The healthiest time to start dating after divorce is when you have processed any emotional pain to approach relationships with clarity instead of fear, loneliness, or unresolved anger.

Is it normal to feel anxious about dating after divorce?

Yes. Many women experience anxiety, fear of rejection, trust issues, or emotional triggers after divorce. Dating can activate old emotional wounds and nervous system responses all linked to past relationships.

Why do I keep attracting emotionally unavailable people after divorce?

Unhealed attachment patterns and familiar emotional dynamics can unconsciously influence attraction. Many women are drawn toward relationships that mirror past emotional experiences or partners, even when those patterns are unhealthy.

How can I rebuild confidence before dating again?

Focus on your emotional healing, self-care, boundaries, supportive relationships, therapy or coaching, nervous system regulation, and reconnecting with your identity outside of marriage and divorce.

What are red flags to watch for when dating after divorce?

Common red flags include inconsistent communication, emotional unavailability, manipulation, lack of accountability, love bombing, disrespect for boundaries, and relationships that leave you feeling anxious or emotionally unsafe.

Can emotional stress affect physical health after divorce?

Yes. Emotional stress and unresolved trauma can affect your nervous system and contribute to symptoms such as anxiety, exhaustion, digestive issues, sleep problems, muscle tension, headaches, or other chronic stress-related symptoms.

Full Transcript

Dawn Wiggins [00:00:01]:

If you’ve been dating after divorce and struggling with the swiping and the not being able to find a good one, let alone the one, it’s time to note what your nervous system is still doing at the idea of someone getting close and knowing what you actually want and claiming it. Because I don’t think you do. If you believe all the good men are gone or you’re scared you’ll just pick another version of your ex, that’s not actually a dating problem. It’s a healing problem. Today we’re going to talk about the patterns that are quietly sabotaging you and the shifts that you have to make in order for love to feel safe again. Hi, love. Welcome to Dear Divorce Diary, the podcast helping divorcees go beyond talk therapy to process your grief, find the healing you crave, and build back your confidence. I’m your host, Dawn Wiggins, a therapist, coach, integrative healer, and divorce.

Dawn Wiggins [00:01:00]:

Join me for a fresh approach to healing grief and building your confidence after divorce. Good morning, ladies.

Coach Tiffini [00:01:15]:

Hey. Hey.

Producer Joy [00:01:16]:

Good morning.

Dawn Wiggins [00:01:18]:

I loved that one. So sing songy. It was like Belle was welcoming. Welcoming us to the podcast. Yes. Okay, so we are going to talk today about some super fun stuff, right? We’re going to talk about the lies we tell ourselves when we are approaching dating and love and relationships, right? Because we often think we’re being picky or we can’t find a good man, right? But what we have learned as a team is that we actually, most women lack enough self confidence and enough self awareness, actually, right. To be attracting the kind of man that they say they want, right? And so there’s a clear path to being able to attract a quote unquote good man. But most women and the three of us missed that path, right? Like the three of us, we’re going to talk about it today, right? Because it involves Lori Gerber, our internal dating expert, who, you know, has been the dating expert for, like, who did she work for?

Producer Joy [00:02:13]:

Gosh, her resume was so impressive. Match.com like, right. Like her resume was.

Dawn Wiggins [00:02:20]:

Yeah, yeah. So we’re going to talk about the system that she uses, right. That really exposes the lies we tell ourselves about dating and good men and attracting the right man.

Dawn Wiggins [00:02:29]:

Right?

Dawn Wiggins [00:02:29]:

So we’re going to get into that. Then we’re going to talk about the way the body keeps the score on dates, right? Like when we think about dating, when we’re swiping, when we’re actually on dating. Because.

Dawn Wiggins [00:02:38]:

Right.

Dawn Wiggins [00:02:38]:

That late night text that doesn’t come through or the pause or the way our Bodies respond when we see those three dots or the micro moments.

Dawn Wiggins [00:02:45]:

Right.

Dawn Wiggins [00:02:45]:

Where we have somatic flashbacks. And so the danger of what happens for most women is that all of their past shit about love is getting triggered in those moments of dating, and they’re misattributing it to that present moment dating experience.

Dawn Wiggins [00:03:00]:

Right.

Dawn Wiggins [00:03:01]:

And so we’re really going to talk about helping women recognize is it a then issue or is it a now issue? And then at the end of the pod, we are going to talk about the specific ways our bodies keep the score.

Dawn Wiggins [00:03:15]:

Right.

Dawn Wiggins [00:03:15]:

And we’re going to sort of get into this one belief that I think is very hard for women to really, really believe is true. But we’re going to talk about how our nervous system reflects our deepest wounds and our biggest growth edges and the very specific ways our bodies show us when or if we’re still afraid love is unsafe. And I think all three of us have examples.

Dawn Wiggins [00:03:36]:

Right.

Dawn Wiggins [00:03:36]:

Of how our bodies show us specifically that love is unsafe. And we definitely want our listeners to know very specifically for them when their body is showing them so that they can take the action they need.

Dawn Wiggins [00:03:47]:

Right.

Dawn Wiggins [00:03:47]:

All right, so let’s do it to it. The lie we tell ourselves about dating.

Dawn Wiggins [00:03:52]:

Right.

Dawn Wiggins [00:03:52]:

There’s no good men. What are some other things we hear women say about dating? There’s no good men. Can’t find them.

Coach Tiffini [00:03:58]:

They just don’t believe in love anymore.

Dawn Wiggins [00:04:00]:

Yeah.

Dawn Wiggins [00:04:00]:

Right.

Dawn Wiggins [00:04:00]:

But do you think, yeah, I’ve had.

Producer Joy [00:04:02]:

My happiness like I had my child.

Dawn Wiggins [00:04:04]:

I’ll just be with my children, right? Yeah, yeah. But, but would they say that to us if we were. If we’re sitting with them?

Dawn Wiggins [00:04:10]:

Right.

Dawn Wiggins [00:04:10]:

Are they saying like, oh, I don’t deserve in love, don’t deserve.

Coach Tiffini [00:04:14]:

I think that’s subconscious feel ashamed around the circumstances of their divorce, especially if they’re the ones who left or if they’re the ones that caused the ultimate divorce through an action. I think that they’re the ones that carry, well, I already screwed it up. Why should I deserve somebody that’s actually good for me? Because, you know, I wasn’t loyal or I wasn’t, you know, whatever.

Dawn Wiggins [00:04:34]:

Or he screwed it up and I can’t trust again.

Producer Joy [00:04:39]:

I believed that, like I. That I had given him my best years. Like, nobody’s gonna want. Want me now, you know, like my youth. I had given him my youth and.

Dawn Wiggins [00:04:51]:

Nobody’S gonna want you now. I think that is. That’s probably the way most women think about it.

Dawn Wiggins [00:04:56]:

Yeah.

Dawn Wiggins [00:04:57]:

Is I’m gonna be used up soon or I already am so I’m not gonna be able to attract anybody. Good. Again, like, wanting, like, more focused on being chosen than choosing.

Dawn Wiggins [00:05:05]:

Right, Right. Right.

Dawn Wiggins [00:05:07]:

Yeah. And that’s the thing that’s really sabotaging most women, right?

Dawn Wiggins [00:05:11]:

Like a.

Dawn Wiggins [00:05:11]:

They haven’t fully healed or recovered from their heartbreak. And so love doesn’t feel safe, right? And so they don’t believe in love or they don’t believe they can trust men or whatever.

Dawn Wiggins [00:05:21]:

Right?

Dawn Wiggins [00:05:22]:

And then maybe even going back to childhood, there’s, like, stuff about how their parents rejected them or abandoned them that maybe they’re aware of, maybe they’re not.

Dawn Wiggins [00:05:29]:

Right?

Dawn Wiggins [00:05:29]:

And so then love reinforces, right. It just gets stuck in that same neural pathway of, like, love doesn’t work out for me. I know I definitely still tackle that here and there in my life. But one of the things we learned from working with Lori Gerber, right, Our internal dating expert who has just helped thousands and thousands and thousands of people, like, learn how to date effectively.

Dawn Wiggins [00:05:54]:

Yeah.

Dawn Wiggins [00:05:55]:

She talks about the 3H method, right? That when you are dating someone, you first have to identify for your. Yourself. What is it that you want in the realm of head, right? Like intellectual attraction, heart, right. In. In the world of love, attraction and hoo ha, in the world of, like, sexual attraction, what are the things that you want that make you feel excited? In 8 out of a 10, if you were scoring head, heart and hoo ha, right. What are the things that we as women need or want in the category. Those three categories in a man, none of the three of us were able to sort of look at those lists and say, like, oh, yeah, we’re super clear.

Dawn Wiggins [00:06:39]:

What.

Dawn Wiggins [00:06:39]:

What really lights us up in the realm of head, heart and hoo ha, whether it’s with work or our husbands or what. Whatever it is, right? Because you could use this 3H method to, like, pick a dress or pick your dinner off a menu at a restaurant. We get in our heads and we talk ourselves into and out of, like, 10 million things, right? And women, it’s. She’s. She showed us that women who have been able to identify not only what they really, really love and want in head, heart, and hoo ha and understand why that was sort of the key, right. Is understanding why brings such a different level of attraction and man into the realm, right? And she tells the story about how when she got clarity on this, like, she met her husband, like, the next day. So interesting. What do you.

Dawn Wiggins [00:07:22]:

What do you ladies notice about just sort of your own approach to, you know, love or making big choices in life? Or what you’ve seen other women struggle with in terms of really getting clear about what you want to choose versus constantly waiting to be chosen.

Coach Tiffini [00:07:39]:

I think in the beginning I was so attention starved in my marriage. So when I got divorced I would just wanted attention from anything for anyone.

Dawn Wiggins [00:07:48]:

I really do.

Coach Tiffini [00:07:48]:

And I feel like a lot of women feel this way. And I call it that breadcrumb mentality when you go out and you’re basically just putting up with shitty men because they send you a good morning text or they take you out on a date every once in a while or, you know, they throw a few compliments your way. And so I felt like that was very much me in the beginning, that I was just basically going on dates to feel anything at that point. Because it had been forever since I felt any type of connection or adoration or oh, he thinks I’m hot or you know, whatever. And then I don’t really. I never went through the three H’s. I really, really wish I would have. But I think for me, what started to happen is my scope started to get more narrow and more narrow and I couldn’t really pinpoint when I would go on a date with people why I didn’t want to continue, but I just knew that something was off.

Coach Tiffini [00:08:39]:

I always felt like what I was looking for was just genuine connection with somebody and that chemistry. And I feel like, you know, when I stopped getting physical right away, when I stopped doing other things like that or that attention seeking behavior, it allowed me to sit back and really look at this man and say, okay, is this somebody that I can really see myself with? And so I didn’t have those checkboxes or lists, but I feel like I had a good idea of what I was looking for. And the more and more that I dated, the better I got at being able to refining it and dismiss the ones that I just didn’t feel like were going to be a match for me. So for me it was a process over a really long time.

Dawn Wiggins [00:09:17]:

I thought it was so interesting how she talked about that. We all have like a default pattern, you know, and mine is definitely head. Like I will over prioritize like it making sense on paper versus really paying attention to how it feels and.

Dawn Wiggins [00:09:31]:

Or Right.

Dawn Wiggins [00:09:31]:

That breadcrumb thing. And I probably toggled between those two things post divorce. Like it needed to make sense on paper or if you would give me any attention, like, great, I will fall on a sword for you because dang.

Dawn Wiggins [00:09:44]:

Yeah.

Dawn Wiggins [00:09:44]:

Which is totally an attachment trauma issue.

Coach Tiffini [00:09:48]:

And I always feel Like, I went for men who never made sense either geographically, they were way too far away. And that. That’s a protective thing too, is when.

Dawn Wiggins [00:09:55]:

Self protective, over and over.

Coach Tiffini [00:09:57]:

Yes. Attract men that there will never be a future with because of whatever reason. That’s also a protective thing. And I did that all the time.

Producer Joy [00:10:05]:

I went for. I always gravitated to, towards men who were emotionally unavailable because it was a comfort zone for me. Not being, you know, like, not being chosen, not being prioritized was like how I felt comfortable because that’s what I knew from, you know, my childhood. So, like when I had. He would, you know, like dangle a little carrot and just send that one text of like, hey, just thinking about you and then swoon.

Dawn Wiggins [00:10:34]:

Right?

Producer Joy [00:10:35]:

I would absolutely, you know, like, so my.

Dawn Wiggins [00:10:38]:

The.

Producer Joy [00:10:38]:

The level of emotional availability, the more emotionally unavailable he was, the sexier he was to me. Because then I was like, it’s my comfort zone.

Dawn Wiggins [00:10:47]:

Right?

Producer Joy [00:10:47]:

It’s where I’m used to it. Yeah, yeah.

Coach Tiffini [00:10:51]:

It’s also the women that go for men who are like avoidant, also the women who are caregivers and protectors normally. And so they go for men who need them as a deflection from having to go deep and share their own shit. Like, he has all this trauma he’s dumping on me. Great. I can fix him. Instead of me having to share anything that goes deep.

Dawn Wiggins [00:11:12]:

Feel attacked.

Dawn Wiggins [00:11:16]:

Yeah.

Coach Tiffini [00:11:17]:

Wow.

Dawn Wiggins [00:11:17]:

Yeah. And so, right. True closeness really, like to really let one’s guard down and relax into love, like that requires being able to attract someone who, you know, has a truly a safe vibration. But that means we have to get to a place vibrationally where we also feel safe.

Dawn Wiggins [00:11:37]:

And.

Dawn Wiggins [00:11:38]:

And that is the mission that we’re on around here, right? And that means being able to identify, like, what are the things I want to need and not settling, right? Because I think what we’ve all described that we all do over and over again, consciously or unconsciously, is settle and talk ourselves into something. Because we don’t believe in love. Cause we don’t believe in ourselves because we don’t believe in our worth, because we don’t believe in whatever, right? And that is just a recipe for either aloneness or to be hurt all over again. And so no bueno. No bueno. We have absolutely just loved like looping Lori’s process into our 12 month program, right? Because so powerful. So then the next thing, right, that we see happen about love being safe is our flashbacks, right? This idea that the body keeps a score when we’re dating, right? And so really getting in touch with what is your body doing. And do you recognize when you’re having a somatic flashback during the dating process or even considering or approaching the dating process?

Dawn Wiggins [00:12:37]:

Right.

Dawn Wiggins [00:12:37]:

Like when you’re messaging with someone, when you’re swiping with someone, when you’re on a date with someone, are you able to recognize the micro moments when you’re, when you’re having a flashback? And I think one of the things that maybe we don’t talk about quite enough. We do talk about it, but I think we could do better is helping people understand when a flashback is about then and it’s not about now, right? I think that people in general, I mean, I got into a fight with my husband this weekend because he got so mad at our daughter and like, maybe she was being a shit, right? Like maybe, maybe not, like whatevs. But like the amount of upset he was feeling was not about now, it was about his childhood, right? And I was like, bro, like, that’s a lot of responsibility to have your 10 year old, like, try to make up for all of the emotional pain you felt when you were a boy, man. Maybe like playing Mario is just not that serious, you know, But I think that this is the man who edits this podcast and like lives with me, right? And he didn’t realize he was having a flashback and that it was really about then and not about now. So let’s talk about helping women really understand that while they’re dating, right? These flashbacks are coming up left, right and center.

Coach Tiffini [00:13:47]:

It happened to me a lot in the relationship that I’m in now. In the very beginning, anytime that I was in a social setting, and I know I’ve talked about this before, but, you know, where we live, breweries are a thing, you know, and it’s a very family oriented thing. People bring their dogs, their kids, whatever. It’s a very safe environment. But because of my experience in bars.

Dawn Wiggins [00:14:06]:

And I was gonna say, you spent a lot of time in a bar as a kid, right?

Coach Tiffini [00:14:09]:

Like, yeah, like, and we always did, right? Like, and it was just a thing we did. Like we’d go to the VFW all the time, you know, or to friends. We had a friend that owned a bar and things like that. And so that environment just always became part of my thing. I, I play pool, I learned to play. I could build a mean card castle with playing cards. I could probably still do it, you know, but that was kind of the environment. But then, you know, and all of.

Dawn Wiggins [00:14:29]:

That got collapsed with your childhood Stuff, Right. All your wounds.

Dawn Wiggins [00:14:32]:

Yeah.

Coach Tiffini [00:14:33]:

And, like, so sometimes you would see things or whatever. And then, of course, when I chose, relationships with men who were big drinkers, you know, and they would kind of lose themselves in that process when we were out, and they’d either get loud or they’d, you know, look at somebody else or whatever. A little flirtation. So all of that was, like, ingrained in me. So coming into this relationship, when I started trying to go out and be social again with him, I would shut down, and I would sit in a corner and just freeze because I felt like I had no control over my body, my emotions, and I was kind of reliving it, and I started to dissociate, like, very, very heavily. And so what did it for me was that we did a workshop in our program on somatic breath work. And I had a huge break during that workshop where I was able to tap into the emotions in my body that truly indicated when I was unsafe. Truly, like, really insensitive anxiety I was feeling.

Dawn Wiggins [00:15:29]:

Yes.

Coach Tiffini [00:15:30]:

And I remember feeling this way as a child. I remember that we had a family friend. He was older than me, always a little flirtatious.

Dawn Wiggins [00:15:40]:

Right?

Coach Tiffini [00:15:40]:

Like, whatever. And this was when I was in a late teenager. Like, it’s not like I was a kid or anything like that. But I remember one time him and I were having a conversation. I told him that I was stressed out, and he came over and started rubbing my shoulders. And the feeling that I got, it was like my whole body got hot. And I was like, something is not like I felt sick. You know what I mean? And I was like, there is something.

Coach Tiffini [00:16:01]:

So that is what I learned in the workshop, is that my body has clear indicators to me when I am.

Dawn Wiggins [00:16:06]:

Not safe, when there’s danger.

Coach Tiffini [00:16:08]:

Correct. And that’s the same thing I felt at times in my marriage and other relationships where somebody was lying or somebody was doing something behind my back. And I knew it, even if they weren’t telling me. I wasn’t feeling anything like that in my current relationship. For me, it was more of an immediate dissociation. And the scary part was I had no warning. We would be in a situation, and all of a sudden, I would just freeze.

Dawn Wiggins [00:16:30]:

Boop.

Coach Tiffini [00:16:31]:

And I would sit in the corner, and then he’s looking at me like, what happened? You know? And I couldn’t explain it. It was like my brain automatically had a roadway back to that, and I just shut down.

Dawn Wiggins [00:16:41]:

I think being able to read the cues of our own body, it’s so magical, right? So magical.

Producer Joy [00:16:48]:

Tiffany, can you. I just have a question. Just because I do think that listening to our bodies is something that the general population is kind of coming to. It’s starting to become a conversation. But what did it feel like? Like, I’ve described on the podcast when I’m feeling. When I’m starting to dissociate or when I’m feeling something. But, like, what does your body feel like when you are in that moment, like, dissociating?

Coach Tiffini [00:17:19]:

So for me, I go into freeze mode. It’s a freeze.

Producer Joy [00:17:22]:

So freeze.

Coach Tiffini [00:17:23]:

I immediately numb out. And I will dissociate to the point where if you ask me what I said or did in those times, I won’t remember. Like, my body literally.

Producer Joy [00:17:31]:

Okay.

Coach Tiffini [00:17:33]:

So even if I’m having a conversation and I’m triggered heavily in a conversation and I freeze, I will not remember what I said to you the next day. My brain just shuts off. So for me, it is a feeling of complete weightlessness and literally numbing out. Like, nothing makes sense. And I just shut down. And it happened quick. And it took me a long time to learn the cues and myself to where I could prevent that from happening because it would happen so fast. I had about three seconds for to, like, rationalize in my brain before I was going to ruin my day.

Coach Tiffini [00:18:06]:

And probably everybody’s around me.

Dawn Wiggins [00:18:09]:

Enjoy yours. Feels like a tingle in your arms.

Producer Joy [00:18:11]:

Yeah. So when I feel like I am unsafe or like when we. In the episode, we did the IFS session, and I started justifying because I was talking about my parents, right? And I started justifying, like, okay, what if they hear this? What. What would I say?

Coach Tiffini [00:18:26]:

Or what?

Producer Joy [00:18:27]:

You know, I felt it. Like, I get. I feel it. I feel it in my arms. Or like, when I get the rush of anxiety of. Let’s say I am walking through the store and I see someone who would have pre homeopathy, pre EMDR triggered me, I still go yellow. Like, it’s still there in terms of that person is a vaccination to me. And so I get tingly is probably a good word for it, Tiffany.

Producer Joy [00:18:55]:

Like, my whole body is, like, on fire almost. And I could see it physically on you that day.

Coach Tiffini [00:19:01]:

Like, your arms lit up red.

Dawn Wiggins [00:19:03]:

Yeah, yeah.

Producer Joy [00:19:05]:

And like, my chest will get red. And so. Right. So, like, I have a body sensation, I think. You know, like, I have a friend who gets a wave of headache when she is emotionally triggered or something. She’s in process with something, she gets a headache. So, like, it’s very interesting. That’s why I wanted to Ask.

Producer Joy [00:19:24]:

Because I think that when people hear other people’s, they connect. They can connect the dots of like, oh, I feel that too. That’s what that means. Kind of put the pieces back together or, you know, help them help our listeners kind of piece together if they’re not aware. And. And I. I do think that it’s become a conversation and becoming aware, especially with our listeners, because we talk about it all the time.

Dawn Wiggins [00:19:47]:

Right.

Coach Tiffini [00:19:47]:

But I like examples now that you’re talking about it. So it’s jarring me now. The first sign for me, it’s disorientation. It feels like my brain starts to slow down. I get in an insane brain fog where I feel very disoriented, like I’m about to pass out. It’ll be like, okay, my breathing gets heavy. Like, my heart starts. Like, I literally feel like I’m about to have a panic attack.

Coach Tiffini [00:20:09]:

But it’s that brain fog where everything starts to slow down and my brain is like, here we go. We’re just going to start to shut off. So that’s when I’ve learned is the biggest sign of my body that I need to use my tools because I’m about to go out, get grounded.

Producer Joy [00:20:26]:

Okay, cool.

Dawn Wiggins [00:20:27]:

I like.

Producer Joy [00:20:28]:

I like it.

Dawn Wiggins [00:20:28]:

Yeah.

Dawn Wiggins [00:20:29]:

Really interesting, right, to hear the. Hear the stages of flooding.

Producer Joy [00:20:33]:

Yes, Flooding.

Dawn Wiggins [00:20:34]:

Shut down.

Dawn Wiggins [00:20:34]:

Right.

Dawn Wiggins [00:20:34]:

Because. Because I do think we experience. Well, there’s a flooding right before there’s a shutdown. That’s.

Dawn Wiggins [00:20:40]:

So I love that you were able.

Dawn Wiggins [00:20:41]:

To articulate that, Tiffany. But to see where everybody lands, right? Do you land in flooded or do you land in, you know, collapsed?

Producer Joy [00:20:48]:

Yeah, right, right. And being able to. Being able to spot it. So you can use a tool, you can use a practice. You can use a breathing technique or a vagal release or like, something to kind of catch it.

Dawn Wiggins [00:21:02]:

And then that piece about how does one. How does one tease out is the nervous system activation that you’re experiencing right now, is it actually about now or is it a flashback?

Dawn Wiggins [00:21:15]:

Right.

Dawn Wiggins [00:21:16]:

Because realistically, unless someone is holding you at knife point, Right.

Dawn Wiggins [00:21:21]:

Like.

Dawn Wiggins [00:21:21]:

Like a true physical threat.

Dawn Wiggins [00:21:24]:

Right, Right.

Dawn Wiggins [00:21:25]:

Most triggers are really flashbacks.

Dawn Wiggins [00:21:29]:

Right.

Producer Joy [00:21:29]:

So it goes back to that Lori. What Lori said was the why. Like, why am I feeling threatened in this moment? Why am I wanting to check out, like, what is. Because if you’re walking through target and you see an unsafe person in your mind, are they really unsafe? Like, why am I reacting? Because my body know, right?

Dawn Wiggins [00:21:51]:

Yeah, Right.

Producer Joy [00:21:52]:

But, like, in reality, it’s going to be something from the past, most likely just because, like, they’re, they’re not going to cost me in Target. Like, something is happening in my body that’s telling me. And so being able to ask yourself why, then you can kind of loop back, like, I really am safe. This is past stuff. This is. Yeah. Asking yourself why, I think is a big. It’s a big step in the direction.

Dawn Wiggins [00:22:17]:

So many of us would be able to justify and defend that. No, it’s about what this person in front of me is doing right now.

Dawn Wiggins [00:22:22]:

Right.

Dawn Wiggins [00:22:22]:

Like, my husband was convinced that this weekend that my daughter was rejecting him. And I promise you, she was not. Like, not really.

Dawn Wiggins [00:22:29]:

You know what I mean?

Dawn Wiggins [00:22:30]:

I think we really fall way too easily into the trap of thinking, like, because, like, let’s say you’re dating, right? And this guy isn’t. He’s not hitting the 8 out of a 10 in head, heart and hoo ha. He’s got behaviors. He’s inconsiderate or he’s rude or he’s not really asking questions or he’s not engaged or he’s not available or whatever it is, right? It’s like, oh, okay, move on. Thank you next.

Dawn Wiggins [00:22:50]:

Right?

Dawn Wiggins [00:22:51]:

But rather than thank you next, we get into a spiral about what he’s doing or not doing and what I’m doing or not doing.

Dawn Wiggins [00:22:57]:

Right?

Dawn Wiggins [00:22:57]:

And we get in the weeds about all of that stuff rather than just like, move on. And that sort of getting in the weeds about it says like, no, actually I am triggered about the past and I am doing this repetition compulsion with this person in front of me. It’s not about them, but I feel.

Coach Tiffini [00:23:14]:

Like it’s also having this mentality or this assumption that we’re still stuck, like in our marriage, right? So it’s like when your husband would do things that would trigger you tremendously, it’s like there’s a different sort of reaction because you’re married, you are in this with him. And so it’s like having to endure that over and over. But when you’re dating, it’s a very temporary situation. If somebody does something that, that you don’t agree with or that you’re not okay with, you can very simply say, this person is not for me, and move on. You don’t have to sit in that space where you tolerate it. And that’s where so many women sit.

Dawn Wiggins [00:23:44]:

In that space, settle because they’re afraid that they’re not going to get a better shot.

Dawn Wiggins [00:23:48]:

Right?

Dawn Wiggins [00:23:48]:

They don’t believe in love or they don’t believe in their worth, or they don’t believe that Good men are out there, right? Then their belief system gets hijacks. Hijacks their nervous system.

Dawn Wiggins [00:23:56]:

Yeah.

Producer Joy [00:23:58]:

What would you. This is something we love to do, like sit on the couch and all kind of like, what would you say to that woman who is coming to you, your girlfriend who’s stuck in this relationship that’s just like. And then I texted him and he waited four days. Text me back and da da, da, da da. Like, what would you say to her?

Dawn Wiggins [00:24:17]:

She’s married or she’s dating. The stating, oh, yeah, move on.

Coach Tiffini [00:24:22]:

Yeah.

Dawn Wiggins [00:24:23]:

It’s not an 8 out of it. It’s not an 8 out of a 10 in head hard or hoo ha if he’s not responding for four days.

Coach Tiffini [00:24:27]:

And I call it that breadcrumb mentality.

Dawn Wiggins [00:24:29]:

Yeah.

Coach Tiffini [00:24:30]:

And I literally told somebody that last week when they texted me about lack of response and things like that. I said, look, the. The longer you stay in the breadcrumb mentality, you’re never going to meet a man on your level ever. You’re just gonna be very bare bottom because that’s all you think you deserve at this point.

Producer Joy [00:24:46]:

The bare minimum. Like celebrating the bare minimum.

Dawn Wiggins [00:24:50]:

Yeah.

Producer Joy [00:24:50]:

He texted me back and it only took three days this time, instead of four days. And yeah, and here’s what I want.

Coach Tiffini [00:24:56]:

You to understand in here too, because this was a huge shift for me when I went from being in the breadcrumb mentality to actually dating men who on paper, Right. Who actually started to be better men, quote, unquote. Right. They were not attracted to me because I was still in a breadcrumb mentality. So it’s like they could also see that I was not in a place where I was ready to receive and be on their level because I was still so needy. Or I would pick fights, or I would be like, pick me, pick me. Like, I was so desperate. That desperate intention, it just like wafted off of my energy and it made them a run.

Dawn Wiggins [00:25:32]:

It is a vibrational game.

Dawn Wiggins [00:25:34]:

Right.

Dawn Wiggins [00:25:34]:

And you cannot fake confidence, you cannot fake trust, you cannot fake faith, you cannot fake these things.

Dawn Wiggins [00:25:40]:

Right.

Dawn Wiggins [00:25:40]:

And so that’s why were saying today that this isn’t a dating problem, it’s a healing problem.

Producer Joy [00:25:45]:

Yes.

Coach Tiffini [00:25:45]:

And I would do this every time in my relationships or my dating. Like, I would start out and I would feel super confident, super in control, super powerful. But then something would happen and it would shift and they would get too close and then I would start exposing the worst parts of myself. And then I was like, well, peace out, because I screwed that up every Single time. That was my routine.

Dawn Wiggins [00:26:05]:

So let’s talk about how all of these patterns have shown up in our bodies and how they show up in the bodies of women, right? So we want women to be able to know, we want them to be able to do a body scan, right? And say, like, oh, something is profoundly activated, not just triggered, right? Not just nervous system activation. We’re going beyond that, right? Like dating. And the idea of dating, the prospect of dating, right, is this mirror for our deepest wounds and our biggest growth edges, right? And so we want women to be able to do a body scan and say, nope, I have trauma layers or pain layers, right? So still stuck in our, in my body. And so I think that this next thing we’re going to talk about is very, very hard for women to sort of accept or recognize because mainstream medicine does not teach this. In fact, it teaches the exact opposite of this. So it can continue to write you prescriptions, right? So from Bessel van der Kolk’s work, the body keeps a score, right? Gabor Mate, like the, the, the doctors, the MDs, right, who have studied trauma and how it lands on our cells have helped us learn and understand and then homeopathy and everything about it, right? And EMDR and ifs and how things get locked in our subconscious mind in the way that our memory is stored, right? We know that the majority of physical symptoms we experience as humans started in our mental emotional sphere. The bulk, the majority of physical symptoms we experience started as mental emotional pain or negative belief about self. And people really have trouble believing that.

Dawn Wiggins [00:27:37]:

They really have trouble buying that. My back pain, my neck pain, my UTI by my yeast infection, my hip pain, my foot pain, my fill in the blank is not about my mind, my emotions or my beliefs. But there are three particular areas we want to help women really dial into today, right? We want to talk about our own experiences with it. That when we have neck pain or stiffness, that is about things that you have not spoken or processed, right? Anger, swallowed words. Swallowed words, Swallowed words. And that does not mean you have to work it out with the person it’s about, right? But it, it means you have not released it from your body. Neck pain and stiffness. Throat issues, right? Not just neck like as in your cervical spine, but also like throat related issues, right? Tonsils and throat pain and all of this, right, Is about swallowed emotion and words.

Dawn Wiggins [00:28:32]:

Pelvic pain. So anything in the pelvic region, right? Whether it’s constipation or diarrhea or things in the uterine region, or UTIs or yeast infections or BV or like all these things in the pelvic region, right. Is 100% stuff related to love and sex that is stuck in your body. Stuff related to fear that’s stuck in your body.

Dawn Wiggins [00:28:56]:

Right?

Dawn Wiggins [00:28:57]:

Because that pelvic region gets into that root groundedness, right? Fear, anxiety, all that.

Dawn Wiggins [00:29:01]:

Right.

Dawn Wiggins [00:29:02]:

And then hip pain is very, very hip pain and stuckness and tightness is very, very much about not being able to trust oneself in fear of moving forward, making. And so what would y’ all say or ask of the women who are listening and is like what the bulk of my physical symptoms are to do with my mind, emotions or beliefs. Like get out of here. The women who are, you know, peeing all the time, like what? That’s about my mind, that’s about my beliefs. Like what?

Coach Tiffini [00:29:31]:

I’m gonna share a crazy story and I can’t believe I’m a crazy story, but I’m gonna share it.

Dawn Wiggins [00:29:35]:

Love a crazy story. Okay.

Coach Tiffini [00:29:37]:

So when I was going through a massive amount of stress, and I know I’ve shared this before, just never in this context, my 15 year old cat was passing away. I was felt like I was losing my best friend anyway, like all of these things of stress, right? And so I started going to the bathroom all the time. Like I would pee every two seconds. I started feeling like my bladder was on fire. They put me on six different types of antibiotics. Nothing was working. So they sent me to a urologist. So I went to the urologist and she was going to perform this procedure or whatever it was, this test.

Coach Tiffini [00:30:08]:

And so what they have you do is they have you pee and then they bring you back into the room, they insert a catheter.

Dawn Wiggins [00:30:15]:

Like a balloon.

Coach Tiffini [00:30:17]:

Yeah, right. And just to see how much is left after you’ve peed. So she was sitting there, she was holding the like kidney shaped bowl that they have in the hospital and she was seeing how much pee would come back out of me. Ladies. She was screaming down the hall at one point for the nurse to come help her because I was about to overflow.

Dawn Wiggins [00:30:37]:

Overflow after I had just peed.

Dawn Wiggins [00:30:39]:

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Coach Tiffini [00:30:41]:

And she said there is something like. So then I had to go get a CAT scan. You know, they had to shoot me up with dye because they were afraid that I might have had a tumor or something that was restricting my bladder from fully opening and I was retaining all of this urine. So ironically, once I started dealing with the stress and once I started being treated homeopathically, I have never had Another flare ever. And this is where I went to multiple doctors who told me, you have to avoid these foods. You know, you can’t eat pineapple anymore, onion or the things that were coffee. And I was like, oh my God, I can’t have coffee anymore. But they would tell me to stay away from all this acidic stuff.

Coach Tiffini [00:31:20]:

So once I started getting on homeopathy, I have never had a flare since then or another IC issue. And when I tell you that that was so telling for me, that how stress manifests itself in the body, it was insane.

Dawn Wiggins [00:31:34]:

And grief, would you say grief? Especially in that moment. I mean, you had a lot of things going on, right? But the grief is like what pushed it over the edge. Loss. Yeah.

Coach Tiffini [00:31:43]:

And I’d never experienced stress physically to that effect, to where it was literally getting in the way of my everyday life and I was not connecting the two at all.

Dawn Wiggins [00:31:52]:

I could tell a bajillion of those stories about my body. But, you know, I see it over and over with patients, right? Neck, hip, pelvic issues. Like, those are the ones I think that in relationship, it’s like. And I have certainly had, I guess, me more neck and pelvic related stuff. Like. Like my neck, you know, has been such a challenge for so many years. It’s super stable now. But like, that took a lot to really purge all the suppressed emotion from my body, right.

Dawn Wiggins [00:32:24]:

From my neck to get really nice and stable and fluid and moving and whatever. But I see it over and over again with women who need to rage, need to scream, need to say the things that they’ve just been swallowing for so many years. I see a lot of women too, with hip pain, right. And men, it’s not just women, right? But so much hip pain and like fear of moving forward.

Producer Joy [00:32:47]:

I think I’ve been between, out of the three of us, I think I’m the one that has taken the longest to kind of get on board with the emotions manifest in your body. But recently, like, I had a huge fight with my husband and I woke up to severe pelvic discomfort. And so there was like nothing wrong with me physically, but it was like a safety issue slash emotion that wasn’t support, right. That I wasn’t facing or verbalizing or working through. And you and I kind of argued a little bit about it because I was like, no, there’s something physically wrong with me. And you were like, get it together.

Dawn Wiggins [00:33:25]:

Well, and there was, you know, there is, right? The body is in experiencing, right? Because, you know, when I heard people talk, like, let’s say a decade ago or like even longer.

Dawn Wiggins [00:33:35]:

Right.

Dawn Wiggins [00:33:35]:

Where when I’m studying trauma and I’m becoming a trauma informed therapist and people are talking about psychosomatic symptoms, I’m like, no, I don’t think you understand. Like, my head hurts.

Producer Joy [00:33:42]:

Right, right, right. No, like, it really is an issue.

Dawn Wiggins [00:33:45]:

It really hurts.

Producer Joy [00:33:45]:

Yes, yes.

Dawn Wiggins [00:33:47]:

Right.

Dawn Wiggins [00:33:47]:

And that’s true. Like, there are very real. Like, I have heart damage. That heart damage is real. That came from trauma. It like.

Dawn Wiggins [00:33:56]:

Right.

Dawn Wiggins [00:33:56]:

Like these mental and emotional symptoms can damage the body. They’re very real symptoms. They’re not in your head. Right, they’re not. But they originate in our minds.

Dawn Wiggins [00:34:06]:

Right?

Dawn Wiggins [00:34:06]:

They originate in our minds.

Dawn Wiggins [00:34:08]:

Yeah.

Dawn Wiggins [00:34:09]:

Or our emotions, our beliefs. And then that’s the design is for the body to say, hey, here’s something you’re not working through. And I think that we are such a suppressed society and we’ve just been thrown prescriptions.

Dawn Wiggins [00:34:21]:

Right.

Dawn Wiggins [00:34:21]:

And then we have side effects from the prescriptions and like, all the things.

Dawn Wiggins [00:34:24]:

Right.

Dawn Wiggins [00:34:24]:

But we can’t see the forest from the trees when we first start this work.

Dawn Wiggins [00:34:28]:

Right.

Dawn Wiggins [00:34:28]:

Because we have so many symptoms. And then we think that we’ve been told that’s just about aging or it’s just what it is. And I don’t know.

Dawn Wiggins [00:34:35]:

Right.

Dawn Wiggins [00:34:36]:

And. But it really is one for one.

Dawn Wiggins [00:34:38]:

Right.

Dawn Wiggins [00:34:38]:

We have these unresolved mental, emotional, and belief system issues, and they land square in our bodies. And that’s the design. And it’s a beautiful design, but we can’t tolerate. We get so scared of symptoms, and then we gotta engage with the medical system. And the medical system is such a nightmare to participate in.

Dawn Wiggins [00:34:56]:

Right.

Dawn Wiggins [00:34:56]:

And then that’s its own stressor.

Dawn Wiggins [00:34:59]:

Right, right.

Producer Joy [00:35:01]:

Or you’re just told it’s normal. It’s normal.

Dawn Wiggins [00:35:03]:

Get used to it.

Producer Joy [00:35:05]:

Yeah, get used to it.

Coach Tiffini [00:35:07]:

They said it’s an autoimmune disease. And when I would look at it, it said something about the brain perceiving pain, or there’s something wrong with the nerves that are misfiring to where your body feels like you’re in pain, but technically you’re not. And I was like, that’s crazy.

Dawn Wiggins [00:35:22]:

But you were in pain.

Coach Tiffini [00:35:23]:

Because I feel like I’m on fire right now. Yeah, yeah.

Dawn Wiggins [00:35:25]:

But you were in pain, Right? It was mental and emotional pain, and then it showed up in your body. That’s right. Yeah. And you know the region of our brain that process processes pain, it doesn’t distinguish between mental, emotional, physical pain.

Dawn Wiggins [00:35:39]:

Right.

Dawn Wiggins [00:35:39]:

It’s a pain center. There’s a pain center in our Brain. That’s right. And it’s everything is linked together and you cannot separate the bladder from the brain, from the heart from the what.

Dawn Wiggins [00:35:49]:

Right.

Dawn Wiggins [00:35:50]:

They are you interconnected systems that function together and it’s beautiful system. And I my wish for women is that they would really take a look at what is your body telling you right now. Because all the chronic symptoms you have, right. Every chronic symptom you’re experiencing, one that has been reoccurring, whether that’s anxiety or it’s a physical pain, right. Says there’s something unprocessed, there’s something you have not dealt with yet.

Coach Tiffini [00:36:17]:

What do you think about menstrual pain and how that associates. And here’s why I’m asking. Because prior to taking sepia, I would always have stabbing pains during my my period. I would have really heavy cramps. I’d be very tired, like energy wiped. And so after taking sepia for about three months during my cycle now I don’t even know when my period’s coming. Like there’s literally no symptoms, I get no cramps. I, I can work out during my period, which is foreign to me.

Coach Tiffini [00:36:45]:

So that’s pretty wild.

Dawn Wiggins [00:36:47]:

Yeah. So I am sure that Joy is going to have some feedback here.

Dawn Wiggins [00:36:50]:

Right.

Dawn Wiggins [00:36:50]:

But cramps are going to be a combination, a layered combination of mental emotional issues, demineralization and endocrine overall.

Dawn Wiggins [00:37:01]:

Right.

Dawn Wiggins [00:37:02]:

Like endocrine dysfunction. So it’s not any one thing, but absolutely cramps are 100% related to, I’ll just say overall how we’re to supposed supporting ourselves or not. I read this reel or I watched this reel this weekend was like fascinating how we’ll sell so many women’s supplements to help them feel less tired rather than just support them so that they can be less tired.

Dawn Wiggins [00:37:24]:

Right.

Dawn Wiggins [00:37:24]:

It’s like, yeah, we’re so depleted in general.

Dawn Wiggins [00:37:27]:

Right.

Dawn Wiggins [00:37:27]:

And that’s why cramps. And then you know, when you see teenagers start with such horrible painful periods, like yes, there’s inherited stuff, there’s like inherited dysfunction, right? Endocrine dysfunction. And then we immediately add a suppressive medication, AKA like birth control pills. And then it just goes deeper into the body. And so, you know, one of the remedies we’ve been using lately in our family is Simisofuga. And that is a remedy that has a lot of cramps, right. But related to birth trauma and you know, some depression and some just.

Dawn Wiggins [00:37:59]:

Right.

Dawn Wiggins [00:38:00]:

Like impending doom stuff. And that one leads to a lot of, of uterine cramping. And so like if you’re Adequately mineralized. If you’re getting enough rest, if you’re eating healthy foods and you’re still having cramps, like. Absolutely. It’s a mental, emotional sphere thing. Inherited or.

Dawn Wiggins [00:38:17]:

Yeah.

Dawn Wiggins [00:38:18]:

From your lived experience. And I know, Joy, you’ve. Well, I don’t want to blow up your spot. I don’t think you care. You’ve dealt with a lot of pcos.

Dawn Wiggins [00:38:26]:

Right.

Dawn Wiggins [00:38:27]:

Like, we’ve really been working to recover you from pcos. And so that journey has been remarkable.

Producer Joy [00:38:31]:

Yep. Yeah. The amount of times that I have gone to a highly, highly respected, highly educated, highly competent doctors and told them my symptoms and they run all the tests and they do all the things, they’re like, oh, you’re within normal range. But I knew something was right because I should not be. It’s not. I, I knew there was something better than being like in the fetal position with 800 ibuprofen every four hours. I was killing my kidneys and my liver and all the things because I could not function. So.

Producer Joy [00:39:06]:

And then, you know, dealing with all of those symptoms, I mean, I’ve been on birth control since I was 16 because I had ovarian cysts and so like, I had ovarian cysts and I had this. But then because I had three babies in two years, they’re like, oh, you don’t have, you don’t have it because you got pregnant easily naturally. I’m like, but why does everything else fit? So it was, I was constantly in massive amounts of pain, I was constantly in massive amount of symptoms that the medical community just was just like, oh, it’s normal. So working homeopathically, it’s gotten drastically, drastically, drastically different and better. But I have been, you know, like, I’ve noticed with my daughter, my 13 year old daughter who is already struggling with those same things because they were inherited. So like.

Dawn Wiggins [00:40:00]:

Right, right. Because she’s never been on birth control. Right. So we can’t say, like, oh, well, we suppressed her system with birth control.

Dawn Wiggins [00:40:06]:

Right.

Dawn Wiggins [00:40:06]:

It’s not that. But she inherited that suppressed system from you. Yeah, yeah.

Producer Joy [00:40:11]:

Right, right. And like what I was going through when I was pregnant with her and what, what, you know, she genetically came with, you know, like, sorry, girl, but us working through that homeopathically has made such a difference. But it’s also helping her be body aware and, you know, helping her feel her body and kind of articulate what’s going on. But yeah, man, those pcos, it’s awful. And so working through the emotions, like how much of that was my Childhood or my marriage or all these things because of my emotions and I didn’t know how to process them. Didn’t even knew they know they were there in emotional sphere.

Dawn Wiggins [00:40:54]:

Right.

Producer Joy [00:40:55]:

That awareness. So working through somatics and my. My friends know that I’m going to be throwing pillows or I’m going to be like. I go like this a lot when I’m tapping.

Dawn Wiggins [00:41:07]:

Yeah. Regulating.

Producer Joy [00:41:09]:

Regulating my.

Dawn Wiggins [00:41:10]:

Right.

Producer Joy [00:41:11]:

Helping my body process and work through those emotions is, along with the homeopathic has been a game changer for my.

Dawn Wiggins [00:41:19]:

So I want to circle back to something because you said that you’ve had providers tell you that your hormone levels are normal.

Producer Joy [00:41:27]:

My whole life.

Dawn Wiggins [00:41:28]:

Your whole life.

Producer Joy [00:41:29]:

And because that is fascinating.

Dawn Wiggins [00:41:31]:

So there’s a remedy that we recently started just this week.

Dawn Wiggins [00:41:35]:

Right.

Dawn Wiggins [00:41:35]:

I ordered it and I knew that you and I both needed it. But this is so, so interesting because I would say that my hormones have not been normal.

Dawn Wiggins [00:41:43]:

Right.

Dawn Wiggins [00:41:43]:

Like I’ve had the opposite where like it was clear that they were all tanked, but then like how to get them up to appropriate levels.

Dawn Wiggins [00:41:50]:

Right.

Dawn Wiggins [00:41:50]:

So you’re saying yours have been at appropriate levels, but obviously you’re having symptoms that say they’re not. Okay. So this really, really niche remedy we’ve been working with, sex hormone binding globulin, we’re in the weeds right now. But ladies, what I want you to hear from this, right. Is that your body is telling the story that it needs to be told, right? So sex hormone binding globulin is a chemical that indicates whether or not. Whether you have too much of it or not enough of it.

Dawn Wiggins [00:42:16]:

Right.

Dawn Wiggins [00:42:17]:

Dictates whether or not the sex hormones you have in your body are being utilized or stored. And so you can. I didn’t even realize this, Joy, that you are someone who the doctors will tell you you have enough of it, but it is not being utilized properly.

Dawn Wiggins [00:42:32]:

Right.

Dawn Wiggins [00:42:33]:

Perhaps it’s being stored or perhaps it’s being.

Dawn Wiggins [00:42:35]:

Right.

Dawn Wiggins [00:42:35]:

And so when we put. When we put sex hormone binding globulin in your body now, those hormones are being metabolized appropriately and then you have even more of those pcos. Oh, symptoms pcos. So super duper duper duper. Interesting. There is always a solution. There are several different types of PCOs too. We’ve really gotten in the weeds on this particular episode.

Dawn Wiggins [00:42:56]:

But.

Producer Joy [00:42:58]:

But I think it’s probably very relatable to how many women you know.

Dawn Wiggins [00:43:03]:

Yeah, yeah.

Dawn Wiggins [00:43:04]:

Right.

Dawn Wiggins [00:43:04]:

And so if you’re having insulin resistance or you’re having histamine issues or if you’re having PCOS stuff, right? Know that your body is keeping the store score. It’s related to all of the inherited trauma that your parents experienced that you have experienced. And if you especially have neck pain, pelvic issues, or hip pain, know that it’s a mental, emotional sphere. Stuff that has to pass to. Has to be processed in order for you to really have the kind of healthy love you crave.

Dawn Wiggins [00:43:34]:

Mm.

Coach Tiffini [00:43:36]:

I would say the first time, like, after I went through that with my doctor, clearly I dismissed my whole medical team after that and kind of moved on. But I will say that kind of what changed for me when it comes to, quote, unquote, modern medicine was seen in osteopath when I went to see her. And they are trained to treat the person, not just the symptoms. So when I sat there with her and she spent 20 minutes with me, and her first question was, can I ask you what homeopathy you’re taking? I’m like, oh, my God. Like, I felt, yeah.

Dawn Wiggins [00:44:03]:

But in that moment, MDs think that DOs are idiots, you know, And. And I get that because it helped.

Coach Tiffini [00:44:09]:

Me the most, though.

Dawn Wiggins [00:44:10]:

I know, I know. But they, like, think they’re under trained and whatever. And then some D. OS will prescribe so many, many supplements.

Dawn Wiggins [00:44:17]:

Right.

Dawn Wiggins [00:44:17]:

That then the liver and kidneys get really, really stressed because there’s too many supplements. So it’s like. Yeah, I know it’s rough out there.

Coach Tiffini [00:44:24]:

It is. It is.

Producer Joy [00:44:28]:

All right.

Dawn Wiggins [00:44:28]:

We love you so much. Peace, Dear. Divorce diary is a podcast by My Coach Dawn. You can find more mycoachdawn.com.